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Before I start with what I want to say here in this post, I would like to thank all of you for making this such a great forum for people to express their thoughts and experiences about life in such a way that allows for greater inner growth. This forum really is different from other forums that I've participated. So, thank you.

As you may already know, I'm here by a chance encounter while searching online about CwG which my friend recommended me to read. To say honestly, I was and still am apprehensive about reading anything that mentions the word G-D. This maybe due to past experiences with people who tried to force or preach their G-D to me. Being the person that I am, I won't buy CwG books until I feel ready for it, or when I feel 'okay' with it. But ultimately I'm here to answer the question of "Why am I here?"

So I started out searching CwG on wikipedia.org (source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conversations_with_God) and I would summarize what I read:

That we and everything here in the universe was created so that we could learn our way back to the highest purpose of creation. This is because we need to start from the lowest to appreciate and feel the highest. And that we will reincarnate over and over again until we reach that highest level of existence.

In my online search I also found a more recent interview with Neale (author of CwG). This is where I read it - Neale Donald Walsch Interview With Dr. Michael Laitman

Just to summarize what I read from the above:

Just simply that humanity has to come altogether to a realization that unity at every level of life is the only way forward towards reaching a higher level of existence.


There are a few other sites that I went to but I'm listing just 2 here to come to a final summary. It seems that previously it is the individual, I, me that is asking the question of "Why am I here?" and looking for answers. Yet it seems that I am still searching. Now however the question has evolved to "Why are WE here?" meaning there has to be a collective quest for the meaning of life and only by uniting are we able to find the relations between each individual and nature and ultimately achieve the highest level of creation.

Even as I am typing here I am still digesting what I knew, what I've read and just read. It may take some time for my mind to sort this out. If my writing doesn't make any sense please do point it out... I'll try to make sense of it

Sc

The truth will set you free.

I have been thinking a lot about this, and I have been writing about it so I’ll try not to repeat all that here.

But truth does set you free imo, and we have had all sorts of debate about truth and what is truth; who gets to decide, who’s the big honcho and haven’t we’ve done this before?

We tend to agree with the broken links the world shows us as if that is all there is, but there are those times we connect the links and we have the truth. There is the truth of what we create, there is what we experience. And for me the broken links may look one way and for you another, and you might make those connections different than me, but we all do get to the truth eventually in our own way. In broken links the information makes it seem things just happened to us and we have no choice, but when looking at the whole picture our creation becomes more clear, and what works becomes clear going forward too. This is the wisdom everybody seems to want.

So in view of all of that, collectively you are forced to have a big honcho which it is where we have been. Yet I believe that to better serve collectively the individual must be honored. Nothing really different but the experience would be different. We would still have big honchos imo, but the most successful collective achievements in humans is when the individuals of the groups are empowered. To me it seems logical, the great big honchos will show up when the people are empowered. You know what they say, when the people are ready the master will come, that makes sense to me but maybe not how others think of it. Truth begets unity naturally, but as soon as the individual is rendered powerless the master lost the game, sort of speak, divided we fall. Perfect how that works.

I don’t know where Neale is at with this, just contemplating for myself. Btw, hello Scandium.

Hi Tonia,

It is beautiful what you have written.

Everybody is certainly unique and no one is the same. But uniqueness aside it seems we have to ask both questions "Why am I here?" and "Why are we here?" to fully understand the purpose of life.

Its just like organs in a body, each organs serves a unique function entirely different from other organs but all work in order for the Body to function. So we as individuals are the organs.. and humanity the organs. Where do we go from there... I leave it for us to ponder

Sc

Seems we see and feel existence in alike manner.

I'd add though that I'd not say we are here merely to remember who we were (aka already perfect God), because once you are Perfect and Complete God, which to me simply means Ultimate State of Beingness (which is being in experience of deepest love, highest awareness, purest joy, complete peacefulness), there is no need to 'lower' oneself for whatever reason.

Truth about it all is IMO that ALL states of existence/awareness/beingness exist since ever and for ever more, process of creation (from lowest level to highest) is eternal.

We are here because this is where we are in this moment within process of creation. And experiences, living, is what enables rising in awareness, that's life as I see and feel it, now.

Think the question answers itself in terms of the context of who and what are included in "we". Historically this country did not view biped animals with skin other then white as people so the phrase - We the people, in order to form a more perfect union... did not include them. We are here to provide the context to resolve our thoughts and thinking in terms of them. They did it. They are to blame.

The term "here" is also a contextual reference. Why is here here? Might as well ask why is it all here? Not a whole lot of difference beyond what you reference within context. What you categorize as "we".

Biologically speaking how else would reproduction take place?

We aren't here beyond the contextual reference for "we" and "here".

From this one's not so humble estimation 'here' has much more to *be* in *now*...than to 'do' with 'we'...let alone 'there' and/or 'then'.

Isn't it ironic that being here is what allows us to ask why we are here?

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So simple a point Jamielynn, yet profound too.

To be honest, when I really dig through all my BS, I don't know why we're here. I'm just glad we are.

See I told you I'm goooood. Seriously.







I don't think there is an answer to the question. I really don't.

Yup you are, when I open up my Psychic Phone Friends business I'll be sure to schmooze you! You're far more gifted than Jojo lol

This really triggers a chain of thoughts. Really profound
So if being here allows us to ask why we are here, we must then make use of it to discover why we are here? Does it mean we are given an opportunity to discover the reason behind that question?

I don't even know where to start looking for an answer. I'm thinking that we the human race have been around for such a long time and yet no one can tell us for sure the reason for life to exist, and it seems that we're here just to live, reproduce and disintegrate back into nature. Does this means the meaning of life that we're searching for can only be found beyond this world. Life is as if a movie on a screen. To understand the meaning of the movie's existence we need to find out the workings behind the screen, where there are the projectors, films, equipments, etc that finally creates the image on the screen.

So what are the forces that governs the whole of nature and its parts? If we can answer that, I believe we would know the meaning of life.

Scandium,

CwG argues that ultimately there is no meaning to life, because if there was a meaning, life itself would be conditioned by it.

CwG goes on to say that this is life's greatest freedom.....because it gives life the freedom to explore every meaning in every way by expressing itself and then experiencing itself freely.

the only real question then is....is life exploring its own meanings and definitions, its own concepts and ideas.... consciously or unconsciously.

life is asking you now...are you a) unconsciously conscious, b) consciously unconscious, c) unconsciously unconscious or d) consciously conscious of the process called life.

call this a little nudge to read something that you might find interesting

My experience has been along these lines of progression from ~2004 (WOW! Has it been that long?):

[*]Seeking answers to a life that seemed completely out of control, hoping someone would tell me how to deal
[*]Finding people that understood where I was coming from and could act as friends and would support my ideals, crazy as they sounded to the general populace
[*]Spending time and attention energy on getting agreeance with my decisions and beliefs
[*]Having a reason to feel superior to the average person because of my great accumulated spiritual knowledge
[*]Having an excuse to not have to interact in the general world because of a self-decided arrogance of hermetic isolation in my cave of spiritual themes
[*]Being able to dismiss others and support my subtle ego in its belief of its higher nature over lower physical concerns, leading away from humility and compassion
[*]Having an avenue to demonstrate "How Great I Art" by self-styling myself a teacher of certain themes - again Glorified Ego!
[*]And when I recognize all this tendency and evolution, remembering how far I've come, I smile and tear to see new arrivals begin step one.

If we are not kind it is because of a reaction to that theme, exhibited by others, inside ourself. I am beginning to see that all that happens outside the body reflects what's coming down within our consciousness and in that respect, all travails, troubles, and challenges are to be embraced. My belief is that all our individual personalities are but separate fragments of one individuated consciousness and we act as symbols for those parts of us that need healing. Accepting those personalities that rub us the wrong way or those we disagree with are but our higher nature making us aware of the need for integration through compassion, understanding, and acceptance. This is what I believe about why we are here...and why I have written this...is for us to consider the ramifications of unified consciousness. In this vision there can only be love.

Why are WE here? That's a good question, and unfortunately, I cannot find anything that proves anything other then the following; that the whole Universe started in one big coincidence that was the Big Bang, and completely random things happen, and that there's absolutely no order to anything...other then our own choices. To say Big Bang was will of God or whoever is fine, but I ask for proof, CWG say proof in mirror, and we here to create ourselves or whatever. How do I know that everything in my life is not coincidence, some people win the lottery, millions do not, so the few people that get ahead in life are the lucky few. They say thinking positive making you make/win lots of money, but that all easy to say if you on the rich side of the fence...God seems quite chaotic, and out of his mind.

Why would you give someone a million dollars-through no hard work of their own-and not give it to all the poor people? That does seem fair...then again, they say, only the just and good and righteous get into heaven, those who addict to money not good things with it, probably end up in limbo, that's what religions say...none of it make sense to me, so the only conclusion i come to is that the universe is a completely random and chaotic place...

If thoughts created reality, I would have been king of this world a long time ago, ha!