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PostPosted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 12:40 pm 
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I was thinking about this quite recently, and a few concerns I have about many of the truths within the CWG books. I mean sure, I find many of the truths fantastic-I would not come here otherwise-but nonetheless there are a few concerns I have on what the books say. These aren't questions really, these are just some thoughts, but feel free to share your own if you wish. Sorry that I can't pick each book that the claim comes from, but these four things that bug me a bit, have appeared in each book.

1-The first one is the idea that aliens gave us much of the technology we have today. While I don't dismiss the idea entirely, it does seem a bit far-fetched. Sure, it seems to make sense when you consider the fact that planes have only been flying for a hundred years or whatever, and I am sure it would make sense in the author's subconscious mind, but consider this; the Romans, over 2000 years ago now, had quite an advanced sewerage system, and according to my research, even had invented flush toilets, but the technology was lost shortly after the fall of the Roman empire and was reinvented later. Sure, it seems like we have made a huge advancement in technology, but when it comes down to it, in the past 100 or so years, there's only really been five major advances in technology that have changed the way we live; telephones, light globes, cars, planes, and computers/internet. We've had a few other things like space ships, but they don't have as much of an effect on how the majority of us live, though these are significant. The point is, I would find it almost insulting for anyone to dismiss the achievements of people like that Bell guy for instance, the one who invented the telephone. Forgot his name sorry. Graham or something.
The point on this one I'd like to get at though, is that the books say that whatever we don't understand, we'll deny. Perhaps the author does not understand how certain technologies work, so denies that humans could have made them. I don't understand how computers can do what they do, but I know there are people that know them inside and out. I am sure to primitive humans thousand of years ago, another tribe could invented a boat out of wood or something, and the primitive tribe would have looked upon the person who invented it as a God-i.e. an alien from outer space. Point is, I think it's reasonable to assume that every technology we have was invented by us, until proven otherwise. To do anything else, is to dishonor the achievements of those who invented these technologies.

2-The idea that humans are somehow more highly evolved then animals, and that we would not choose to go back to being an animal is a HUGE contradiction, considering that the CWG books say that Time itself isn't real, so who is to say there is a going backwards or forwards in evolution when there is no time?! It's also very arrogant, as it shares the view that we humans are somehow superior spiritual beings to our animal counterparts. Elephants have bigger brains then ours, and they even have funerals. We might not like the idea of becoming an animal in our next life, and the problem with the statement the books make, that becoming an animal would be a step backwards, bugs me somewhat. There is no backwards or forwards according to the books!

3-As you probably aware, I do have my concerns about the whole idea that simply thanking God for something in advance will make something happen. I mean sure, it might have helped me find love, as believing in it nonsense or not kept me in a positive mood and frame of mind, which is probably what I needed to be, to get me where I am, BUT that does not mean I will accept it as gospel, not until someone can tell me that thanking God in advance for a visit from aliens from Outer Space comes about. Then I'll be open to believing almost anything.

4-I am well aware that I am slightly younger then the author Neale of the CWG books, and I am concerned with the statement that it's an unrealistic expectation for mother's to look after their children, instead handing them over to grandparents to be raised. I know I might sound ageist in saying this, but I have had very bad experiences with old people, and continue to do so, so avoid them at all costs. They are from a previous generation, and quite a large number of them I have found, are stuck in the 1950's. Not all of them, but enough for me to be concerned. Perhaps it's an Australian thing, but a lot of elderly grandparents tend to act like real bullies, playing childish games, and it really leaves a lot to be desired, and I certainly wouldn't want any child of mine to have to put up with that. You might think I am biased because of my experiences with my own father, but consider this, Neale himself in his books even admitted that he was a difficult person to live with. And I have put up with arrogant holier-then-thou attitudes from old people for years. They just won't come into the 21st century. The vast majority of them, once they hit their late 40's, become very stuck in their ways, aren't open to change, or learning new ideas, and are more concerned about preaching what their life experiences have taught them to be the truth to younger generations. So I make this solemn vow, should I reach the age of 100, I will be open to learning new things, and admitting that everything I ever said in life could have been wrong! Simply put, I don't have faith that in the present era, older generations will do a better job at child raising then the younger generation.

Mind you, some within older generations such as my mother seem to know what they are doing...not that it should be her responsibility to raise my nephew, of course. Just some random thoughts...


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 1:43 pm 
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What books are you referring to?

I don't think we read the same books.

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Read CWG Book 1, 2, and 3 all over again, and I guarantee you that if you keep your eyes open for them, without doubt you will come across all the things I mentioned.


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I've read all three numerous times now Stephen. I am reading Home with God at present.

Again, I don't think we read the same books.

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MUST YOU PUT ME TO SUCH HARD WORK?! BLAH! I will find each of the things I mentioned in the books, quote them word for word, and get back to you!!! with full references to each page number!! then we'll see who'se laughing


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As you wish Stephen, if it will make you feel more "right".

But don't do it for me, because even after all that effort I'll be quite sure we didn't read the same books.

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Bah, then I won't bother then. If you're too stubborn about your own rightness there is no point. you read what you want and filter out all the questionable things...like many religious people tend to. just my opinion.


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Though I do recall the bit about aliens giving us technology is in the final chapters of Book 3. Read the final five chapters over again, and I am sure you will find it. If you don't, it was Book 2, but I'm pretty sure it was Book 3. You WILL find it.


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I am not the One looking for it...


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Ohhhh....I understand now....you said what you did just to send me off my rocker! So you already know that I am correct, but have so little care about the matter that you will type what you like whether true or false. I am relieved then that I didn't bother. If anyone else does choose to read them, I assure you, what I say about them is true.


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Stephen wrote:
Ohhhh....I understand now....you said what you did just to send me off my rocker! So you already know that I am correct, but have so little care about the matter that you will type what you like whether true or false. I am relieved then that I didn't bother. If anyone else does choose to read them, I assure you, what I say about them is true.


No Stephen, that is your perception. You assume my intentions are devilish or mischevious, however, I assure you, I am earnest.

We have not read the same books.

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That much is clear, you haven't read CWG Book 1, 2, and 3, and if you have, you haven't read them thoroughly. Unless some publisher in Canada or where ever the heck you live deliberately got rid of the bits about grandparents being child raisers, because it offended their country...whatever.


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Stephen I have the feeling that when you truly understand what I have been trying to share with you, your whole world will change.

Completely.

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Then explain it simply so I might understand?


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