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Hey guys

I've actually felt quite about myself for a whole 2 weeks haha, and it was just because I changed my perception of myself which made everyone else seems pretty irrelevant.

I wasn't worrying about them and I was just liking myself enough to do my thing and not care about others opinions etc.

Despite this, I noticed something that can change that pretty quickly.

The things we can't change.

I might feel sad etc but I know that's pretty easy to change/or it's very possible to

However, what about if you're dieing? What about if you're ugly?

You can't change them yet you know they are there. You can't trick yourself into thinking you're going to live, and you can't trick yourself into thinking you're beautiful.

So when your mind realises this and your desires are telling you want something else but it isn't possible, then this causes depression and hopelessness.

So how do you work with these perceptions and stay with who you are and not care about others thoughts, or not try and use it as something you need to make up in other areas because you feel it hinders your chances of acceptance.

What Tonia said in my other thread was probably the most important line I've had in how I've changed, because I sawit happen in me and I saw it transform me.

"We are not able to care what another thinks, usually when we do it is because of our own perception of self or our own fears."

It really is true isn't it.

When you like yourself everything else becomes natural and small things don't become important.

So what about when facts and logic say otherwise?

How do you deal with that? Because you can't change them, you can change your perception but what if you know you're only changing it to make you feel better, then you know you're basically cheating and not accepting it at all.

Thanks Joe

The things you can't change are not worth worrying about. I fear death, but I cannot change it, so I try not to waste much time worrying about it, as it is pointless, and its not as if you are alone in that one, it happens to EVERYONE regardless of whether they are pretty, ugly, rich, poor, furry, hairy, two legs or four etc etc

Ugly is a matter of personal perception - not all are so shallow that they cannot see past the physical to the person inside.

Makes me think of the people who go and have endless plastic surgery as they try to make themselves more attractive to the outside world and end up looking worse. I was branded ugly as a child and bullied endlessly as I did not fit in with what was deemed acceptable. Well, they can go f*ck themselves as far as I am concerned as their opinions count for nothing - only how I feel about myself is important. My partner does not think I am ugly, nor do the people who love me. So who is right.........?

You are always going to be you - from beginning to end on this journey - my advice would be, you'd be better off making friends with yourself sooner rather than later, makes things a lot more easier, trust me.

joe,

you can change everything consciously if your desire is to create love (and its flavours)....

there are alot of things (nearly all things) you can't change consciously if your desire is to get love (and its flavours).....

if you need love or need to be loved....things are often very hard.

if you are in the business of creating love....you are living from outside the physical game.

a person may see an uglyness in themselves and cry to be beautiful.....but you can't console them.

another person will see ugly and use it to create love.

Imagine you met a really ugly person on the street and you pointed to them and said...hey you..you are so damn ugly...and the person comes back and says with a smile...yea I know but you know what.... you are so so beautiful....

this should immediately tell you that the "ugly" person can see more love when there appears to be none while you look to feed on a memory or past image of love in the hope of getting some....

all around you there are beautiful people in hiding....some are aware...some are not.

it is easy to see who is and who isn't....look to see if they are creating love.

K