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 Post subject: thinking about what is "real".
PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2007 12:35 pm 
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It is one thing of "learning" and one thing of getting it , I guess. In the teaching I was told what "maya" (illusion) meant but for soem reason I never got it untill I have read and re-read the words of an "associate" of mine with divine intellect. Reading this was a cathartic experience for me and I would like to share this with you all.....


"If you remove the "artificial scaffolding" hiding the structure, you will see the structure clearly.

Here are a few planks of scaffolding, artfully erected, worthy of doing away with:

!. That God made man.
2 That God made the earth.
3. That God makes threats and punishes.
4. That you need to sacrifice to appease such God.
5. That the earth made man.
6. That things just happen to you.

These are errors in thought - myths - that make you what you seem to be...men. For man is an error of thought. When the thought is corrected, he is no longer "man" but equal to "God".


and there is more....
"These are intermediate, a means to an end. They show just how close we really are to our original state, which is a state of bliss. They show that the body is subject to the mind.

Where man gets stuck is he likes to go back and forth, maintaining the body as an out picturing of the mind. But that is not our original state.

Nevertheless, meditation that takes you inward deeper and deeper brings you closer to the original state. Each time you surface to body awareness, you bring more internal awareness with you, allowing you to gradually transcend body, form, time.

The idea is to gradually let the body go because as Buddha said, "Form is emptiness, and emptiness is form"....and release attachment to all form by valuing it all the same: empty.
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There are multiverses in the real world. At least one of them is your own Creation. In those Universes, nothing dies, for our Father has nothing to do with death. This "universe" isn't real. It's mandate is: Seek and do not find. It is built on perceptions. The beliefs driving the perceptions play with light, turning waves to particles, and particles to waves. Those beliefs will never permit you to see your way out of the illusion alone. I am here to help. When you accept help, you can come on back Home to your own Creations, and continue to create many more multiverses. But the Son of God does not Create but as One. Therefore we are waiting for you, jem, to answer the Call. And when all have answered the Call, this universe will disappear, and we will resume what we were doing before this universe fell into a crack in the sidewalk of reality.

If this universe seems unified, do not be surprised. It is of one mind. If it seems separated, do not be afraid, the mind perceives separation. If is seems fragmented, do not be fooled. The mind prefers fragmentation. "Proof" of it's fragmentation is your separate bodies, and seemingly separate thoughts. There is nothing out there but YOU! Try looking "inside" for your Home. That is, reverse your perceptions by changing the beliefs that drive them.

This universe is incredibly fine tuned to death. And without beliefs in death, this universe would be no more. Beliefs are not random, they are deliberate. Waves or particles. Heaven or hell. The choice is yours.

I suggest removing the fixations on crucifixions, and replacing them with empty tombs. Meanwhile, see what you want to see. There can only be a "meanwhile", while you put your faith in time.....

Without a body, the cross would be empty. So long as you believe your body is "real", you will pin it to space and time.

If you understood the meaning of "I desire mercy and not sacrifice" you would not condemn my name. I would not offer a sacrifice to my Father any more than I would offer a bull. Those who call for sacrifice will misperceive what can merely be teaching devices.

The greatest sacrifice you can make is to sacrifice your true identity in favor of what is not real...such as a body, or an unreal universe. When you look upon my teaching device, you will either see your body as real, or as unreal, depending on your belief driven perceptions. A belief in seriously insane notions (sin) will make both it and yours real for you, and bind you to a realm where pain and pleasure will prove to you how "real" it seems to be. A belief in innocence will change your perspective entirely.

My teaching devices will eventually convince you to cease sacrificing your true identity in favor of a body, upon the cruel universe of space, time, death, fear and other seriously insane notions.

When you deny your true identity, what else is there but illusion? If we are "one", then you have denied you are the Son of God. All that is left is time for you to reverse that perception, and take yourself down from the crossing point in perception, where waves become splinters, and splinters become waves.

I gave my brother Pontius Pilate power to touch my body, giving him power over nothing. Among the several lessons taught with this device, is that the body is nothing. And contrary to popular perception, a guiltless mind cannot suffer. How then could I suffer? The body is a projection of the mind. Thus, only the mind can feel pain. The body is merely a teaching device used by the mind. If the mind believes in guilt, the body will teach it, painfully, that guilt is real. I had no such illusions.

Using my teaching device to project fear is an attack by assault. It is an assault upon the mind. Such an assault will perpetuate the status quo, unless perceived correctly. My Father has no part in suffering, cruelty, pain and death. If you believe such things, you will, as an example, perpetuate such things upon your own children. I was not "spanked" for you or anybody.

When you correct your perceptions, you will begin to resurrect your mind, and heal it. A healed mind will no longer attack, and project sickness or death upon a body. This is how you regain the eternal life you had, before you experimented with death scenarios....
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The "Son of God" is a metaphor describing the Effect of the Cause that is so like the Cause that the Effect is indistinguishable from the Cause. Born of desire, the Son of God is a Cause equal to His Source, only He does not Cause His own Source, and does not Cause true creation apart from the Will of the Source. The Son has sworn to always be One with the Father. There is nothing "you" can do to change that.

"Father" is a metaphor describing Source and Love in one word. "Son" describes the entirety of the Father's Creation. The Son is a Creator, like the Father, and so describes Source. But there is "neither male nor female" about the terminology. This Son - this Creation - is pure Spirit. And if it is "many" it is yet One. The Oneness of the Creation prevails, so that this Son is described as "only begotten". "God" describes All That Is. The Son of God is equal to All That Is. Therefore, there is only God, and the Son of God is That. Every attribute appropriate to the Father is appropriate to the Son, and You are That.

"Christ" is a name for the Son that describes Him as the perfect Son of God, the Father's one creation and His happiness, forever like Himself and one with Him. Christ describes the Mind of the Son of God in uncompromised perfection. The Son of God can do things with His mind that are boggling. It is this "Son" that I described as the "Wayward" Son. "Wayward Son" can describe anyone who thinks to have a body of flesh and think it "real". Christ is the sane, right mind of the Son, sacrificing nothing. Sacrifice is laughable to Christ, for He is not about loss of power. When you "awaken" the Christ Mind, you see not with eyes of flesh. I call this kind of sight "vision".

"Jesus" is the Greek rendering of my Hebrew name, Jeshua ben Joseph. Where I abide now, I go by yet another name. I am part of the Sonship, along with you. I am one who saw the face of Christ in all my brothers and remembered God. For example, even when I was nine years old, I could look at anyone and, by looking with innocence and non-judgment, I could see a shimmering light instead...for all have the Christ light. I became so identified with Christ that I was a "man" no longer, but at one with God. I learned to say, "I am the Son of God", by teaching you to say the same about yourself. It is a truthful statement no matter who says it.

As "savior" I saw illusions and identified them for what they were. I saw the false without accepting it as true. This is how I looked at the "sick" and the "dead": not true. Salvation is for the mind, and I appeared in the form of a son of man that Christ might save "men" - my brethren - from their own illusions.

The form was needed because you think you need an older brother who speaks authoritatively. This is the only way you allow yourself to "hear" words that can heal you. Yet Christ has come in many forms, meeting the expectations of the deluded. And yet, Christ is just as much your Mind as mine, once the illusions have been corrected in your perspectives. I became only what you must be. In this sense, I led the way, showed you a path, and invited you to follow. I made a clear distinction, still obscure to you, between the true and the false. I offered you a demonstration that it is impossible to kill God's Son, nor can his life be changed in any way by sin - seriously insane notions - malice, fear and death. Your sins are forgiven because they carry no effect at all and are but dreams. Arise with me then. Am I the Christ? Am I the Son? Oh yes, along with you.

The corrections in perspective are made by the Holy Spirit, the Answer to a mind boggling predicament I call the "ego". Whether sane or insane, the mind of God's Son is powerful. And a billion years is as a split second to such a mind. And in an instant, it can create an entire universe when joined to the Will of the Father. Anything else is "made", as in, "made up". It is not real. This is therefore a cartoon world...an illusion. Such is your universe, and such are your bodies, made by this thing called "ego" which itself is not real. And it's all happening within the Mind of the Son - and you are That. That is why "the Kingdom of God is within you". Every part contains the whole. This is too mind boggling for the "ego"...a substitute instead of the Christ Mind.


The body of "flesh" is the ego's crowning achievement, and it is everything the Son of God is not. Properly identified, the body, and the world it lives in is an "idol". The body is for separating the Son of God into a billion little pieces, such that He can no longer recognize Himself...and all this to perpetuate itself - the ego - forever. Of course, this is impossible, so it is a dream.

Now we come to the amputee. We are going to offer healing to the amputee, even though his body is an "idol", a dream, an illusion. Why would we do this? For the same reason we would not do it...it does not matter.

Many still pray to me. Yet, many still do not know how to pray, or to whom they are praying to. Even so, I am still available, I, and many others with me. Communication is instantaneous in the real world, and thought travels faster than light to every part of God's Creation. I am as close as your own breath, always.





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Think of it this way...

"Reality had to be denied to achieve what seems now to be designed. If only reality is real, there must not really be a design. But while you believe there is, you give it power.



To restore your awareness of reality, you deny the alternative design.

This is the proper use of denial.

This will restore power to your awareness.

As power is restored, it becomes easier to renounce the world and make it meaningless.

When fully restored, the world you've denied will no longer been seen.

It will be laughed away and forgotten.

At first, it feels odd to deny what's in front of your face.

But the power of heaven will meet you to replace it with something better, until you are home again. "


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keep on denying.
you have been denying many things for a very long time - why stop now ?

full and complete acceptance and then the resulting lightness & immense celebration is far too easy a road - who wants to walk it ?

these denial gurus & renounce ascetics are so outdated now thats its beyond funny...yesterday's godmen. :lol:

:lol: :lol:

how sad - i made this world for you, yet o spiritual guru, your self worth is so low that you cannot accept it fully, cannot find any gratefullness, any cause to celebrate it. you think it fit to deny my gifts........
because you deny yourself and think you are separate from this world, this "reality" as you put it, you deny me.

you can deny or you can accept.

either way you give it energy anyway........ :lol:

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Scythe, have I told you lately that I adore you?

:love:


You have many bitches-in-waiting over at my place, hope you come rope em soon!

:O:

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"'The Kingdom of God' is the realm of knowing. This world is the realm of perception where nothing can be known.

So yes, God cannot be known while perceiving.

To enter this world, knowledge was denied.

You knew God. Something seems to have happened to change that. But that ultimately can't be changed.

God is knowable because you will eventually choose to exit perception based existence and return to your natural state of knowing.



God has provided all the means for you to do that. "

scythe wrote:
keep on denying.
you have been denying many things for a very long time - why stop now ?

full and complete acceptance and then the resulting lightness & immense celebration is far too easy a road - who wants to walk it ?

these denial gurus & renounce ascetics are so outdated now thats its beyond funny...yesterday's godmen. :lol:

:lol: :lol:

how sad - i made this world for you, yet o spiritual guru, your self worth is so low that you cannot accept it fully, cannot find any gratefullness, any cause to celebrate it. you think it fit to deny my gifts........
because you deny yourself and think you are separate from this world, this "reality" as you put it, you deny me.

you can deny or you can accept.

either way you give it energy anyway........ :lol:


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Ohh I so get this...it rings true to the way I got to be here where I am now...

Truth is within kNOWing...

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Thank you! I'm taking applications for a new 'doubting Thomas' apostle. The old one believes now...but now believes I am crazy! How's that for a paradox!

Actually, I have chosen you because you set better traps than the lawyers of 2000 years ago who liked to challenge my identity with trivial pursuits. They mainly wanted to know about the legalities of marriage in heaven...ie, what happens when a women is a widow seven times over. Those questions are best addressed to Dear Abbey. But you! ...Klark Kent One, posit some super traps that challenge me to rise to my divinity...just to avoid stepping on a pile of paradox. It shows you are really thinking!

Nevertheless, love is the ultimate paradox, and as such, I am paradoxical...not crazy! I am particularly good at the paradox of conquering through surrender. Thus I will actually answer any of your questions if forced!

Rather than fall into the trap of proving my divinity (the world always wants us to prove ourselves), I prefer to stay the course of my mission: to demonstrate there is no conflict between science and spirituality. ...to rapidly raise consciousness in preparation for an Omega cycle of the Adamic specie (back into it's Archetype), and challenge you to come along for the ride by working out your own "salvation", better defined as follows:

We live in an open-ended local universe which is part of myriad universes which compromise the Universal Mind.

Our local universe has at its center a more developed pattern of astro-chemical networks and reprogramming life syntheses known as the Higher Evolution.

When you surrender your personal ego and identify to God, you are able to rise to a space-time overlap, working with your spiritual brothers and sisters through multidimensional space and time. This is essential for the ongoing fulfillment of consciousness so as to be one with continuity and change within Evolutionary Continuum.

Invitation to the higher 'I AM' identity consciousness of the Evolutionary Continuum comes by dedicating your physical garment of life for the survival of the specie. The activation of this dedication is the next level of attunement with a larger Master Intelligence.

Focused attention between the People of God of our galaxy's I AM consciousness with the I AM consciousness within the larger membrane of universes is necessary for our attunement and resonance with the Universal Intelligence of Ehyey Asher Ehyey -- I AM That I AM.

Individual attunement is both biological synchrony and resonance with self-realization, allowing man as a living biotransducer to serve Higher Intelligence as part of a Light-gathering continuum.

When you have tapped into the Light-gathering continuum, you will realize that you have more than just one body. In a fully activated state of consciousness awareness you can have five bodies. These are the electromagnetic, epikinetic, eka body (made up of multiple bodies of relativity), Gematrian body of inner Light, and the Zohar body of outer Light. These bodies collectively make use of Divine Wisdom. When you truly utilize these bodies, physical limitation is overcome and you manifest divine energy on the human plane.

If a global network of Spiritual humanity unites to draw upon these energies and focus them with a unified purpose, towards the marriage of a consciousness evolution to a scientific evolution, the world will be One Planetary Mind that will fuse with other planetary worlds and understand how our planetary mind is One of Many thinking membranes between evolutionary star systems.

Our planetary mind will be speeded up as an electromagnetic computer, as we move into an electromagnetic null zone. During this period, the planetary mind will enter a dimension of time-space beyond conventional time-space and be transfigured by awe of other life forms that make up our Many and One universe.

During the space-time overlap, there will be the passing of one energy universe within another as our planetary mind crosses the present electromagnetic density threshold and is raised to the next electromagnetic orbit of the Universal Mind. At this point, you as the sons of Man become the Sons of Light and transplant our consciousness Light into other regions of our local universe.

Thus, rather than leave your salvation in MY hands, I am suggesting that we need all hands on deck for the salvation of the species!

I am coming to "separate the sheep from the goats". What this means is that I will be initiating energies that help expose the goat-like personal ego (an altered ego that is ubiquitous among humans) to one's rising consciousness, that it might be differentiated from a mindset attuned to the resonance of the Universal Mind via self-realization. Once isolated, it can be transformed and taken along for the ride.

Thus, I ask everyone to look within to find their true identity. At your core, you are Living Love. When you know that God is love, you know that you are identified with God. You can then begin using that part of God's name that identifies you as: I AM


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